What says the Bible: on Difficult Subjects?

SECOND DEATH - Talk Below

Revelation 20:

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are] and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Hint: When did the book of life open? Today or after the thousand years? 

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Some of us have been told that if we leave an organization or do not believe certain doctrines,  or sin by leaving  after having "the truth"it will result in our going into second death.

This is an interesting talk on that subject for you to decide from scripture. Bob Carnegie a brother from the Bible students movement gives his perspective.  He's a good man just trying to give us some things to think about. Enjoy and Thank you

http://www.labiblestudents.org/2019/Carnegie_humility_and_prophesy_part_9_the_four_seiges_of_jerusalem.mp3

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141 Responses to What says the Bible: on Difficult Subjects?

  1. jacqueline says:

    Nebuchadnezzar
    Nebuchadnezzar was humbled by God for boasting about his achievements, lost his sanity and lived like an animal for seven years, according to Daniel, chapter 4.

    When rulers boast about how they powered the economy and act Godless, even saying they have never asked God’s forgiveness for anything, he can bring them down.

    A ruler like Nebuchanezzar can go mad and do and say insane things plus be made to act like a little pouting child pitching a tantrum.

  2. Jacqueline says:

    As you get closer to an object or time you can see more clearly since more detail is revealed.
    Often we connect the Statue in Daniel 2 with the vision in Daniel seven as being the same empires.
    But suppose America, Britain, Russia, and Islam are really in Daniel 7 and Revelation.
    Listen to this Minister’s reasoning which seems sound.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-4VYpo-lKs

    He also has an interesting thought or 2 on Ezekial.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS6JIdJDJnk

  3. jacqueline says:

    Whenever a scripture doesn’t seem to make sense or is contradicting, put Jesus in the middle of it and it makes sense.
    ie: Hosea 13:14 “I shall ransom them from the power of Sheol; I shall redeem them from Death. O Death, where are your plagues? O Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion is hidden from my eyes.

    Hosea 5:8 “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?”
    In context, these scriptures are difficult to apply but check out Jesus and you will understand their fulfillment.

    1Cor. 15:55 “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?”

    ie: Why would God have them look at a snake hanging on a pole on a hill? They even venerated this after that, looking to a snake on a pole to be saved from situations.
    Numbers 21:8 “And the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent and set it on a pole, and everyone who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live.”

    You have to insert Jesus and go looking in the new testament to find out why.
    John 3:14-15″And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,15that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.

    You can basically do this with any hard to understand scripture in the Old Testament. Insert Jesus in it and it becomes clear.
    Just a little tidbit to share as we dig and search to figure out where we are in the stream of time.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hr0gf_ZLf8&t=3826s Hosea A book that reveals one facet of God’s feelings and commitment to His people, Israel, and us today.
    Chapter 1:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT8kPywdf4s

  4. jacqueline says:

    I have a Tik-Tok challenge:
    Can anyone show me where the Bible says we will live in heaven? Not by explanation but scriptures.

    Jesus said where I will be you will be.

    John 14:3 “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.”

    Revelation 20 &21 shows Jesus and Jehovah are tenting with Mankind, that He will be down here on a new earth with his city being the light with a river of water of life and trees going down the middle of the city with streets of Gold.

    So Tik-Tok, Where does he teach heaven and what will people be doing in heaven?

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