The Lake of Fire- Let’s Talk Please!

 

This is just a video to start us off on earnest discussion of this subject. This is not the video I found 9 years ago when I left the witnesses but it will start the conversation.

Should we be afraid to stick to the exact text and not add or subtract as commanded?  No, we should not be afraid to say what we see and in an honest discussion with the Holy Spirit guiding us, try to understand Revelation now that it is being revealed to a lot of Bible studies.

 

 

19 Responses to The Lake of Fire- Let’s Talk Please!

  1. Kevin Davis says:

    in 2018 I suffered a serious mental attack I went to the Jehovah’s witness religion Kingdom Hall at Altavista Virginia. My daughter had a fever and I asked a Question If someone would drive me ten Miles to Gretna Central health hospital. can a elder’s wife said she’s your daughter call 911 this was heartless anyway 2 Days later my daughter was challenge by students one day and the next day at Alta Vista elementary schools in the 5th grade the teacher hit her and told her she is to stare at that flag my daughter came home crying with tears on her face and shirt and I did not have Jehovah’s witnesses support for a anointed Jehovah’s witness Jehovah’s witnesses failed to support Kevin Davis altavista Virginia I lost custody of my child Makayla Davis because I didn’t have a support of the Jehovah’s witnesses I almost lost my life in Roanoke Virginia at Catawba hospital spiritual guidance was very much needed by the Altavista Virginia congregation they did not support Kevin Davis altavista Virginia a body member of the family of God they did not show support for the anointed Jehovah’s witness.

  2. Kevin Davis says:

    Jehovah God and Jesus Christ is going to shock the world very soon when when their Spirit puts it in the heart of world leaders to quick check all religion that is organized religion most religion’s changed law’s of God and times and took away laes and principles. they added in tuckaway from the Bible. world government council will seat to annihilate organized religion and true religion is found in the hearts and minds and body works and faith mankind is saved by the grace of God put faith in the Lord Jesus Christ add Jehovah God and let his spirit guide you to put in faith and works organized religion is man-made Jesus Christ is the temple and the heart of God

  3. Kevin Davis says:

    in 2018 when I suffered my mental attack with my daughter I went to the kingdom hall Makayla Davis was sick with a fever and asked if some would drive me and Makayla to Centra health hospital the elders wife said she your Daughter call 911. the lack of love shown to me over the years at Altavista kingdom hall in Virginia. made me choice to seek spiritual guidance some were else my daughter and i suffered for being a Jehovah’s witnesses when the flag issue came up in school when a teacher hit my daughter the elders were not able to give support to a anointed brother of Jesus Christ.ask you Jacqueline to read my notes on anointed talk beyond watch tower my name has been Kevin Davis and KD and Kevin.

  4. Kevin Davis says:

    I went to the Jehovah’s witnesses kingdom hall at Altavista Virginia they never made me a part of the congregation in going door to door. I will be baptized some were else. they had my Daughter go door to door with little bible study. but me a man who loves Jehovah God and Jesus Christ I never was good enough. I will see if am good enough some were else. i love Jehovah and Jesus Christ. and Gods spirit lives in me.

    • Travelers says:

      We wish you well in your pursuit of a relationship with our brother and Father Kevin. Remember no one stands between you and these relationships. Peace be with you.

  5. Kevin Davis says:

    my mental health is doing better because the spirit of God is with me. my relationship with my daughter is getting stronger.

  6. after suffering a mental attack from losing my daughter over the Jehovah’s witnesses stand when they teach not to pledge allegiance to the flag issue in public school system at altavista Virginia elementary school in the fifth grade this issue cost my daughter to lose a Father Kevin Davis that loved makayla Davis my mental health has suffered because of being a Jehovah’s witness my daughter lost a great father and a dad who loved herover the stands of a pledge of allegiance to the flag issue Jehovah’s witnesses take . the past is the past and I hope my daughter forgives her Dad for suffering a mental breakdown I am well now but the past is the past and because of this pledge of allegiance to the flag issues Jehovah’s witnesses take Jacqueline I miss my daughter very much I don’t get back the times I could have spent with my daughter I hope Jehovah God Brian’s the kingdom of God soon were the flag issue and mental illness will be a thing of the past I talked to you Jacqueline on the phone the kingdom of God as for those they have love May no child be abused ever again my daughter would be home if the flag issue had not been an issue to begin with time has moved on I hope my daughter will forgive me and allow me back in her life where I can prove I was and I am a wonderful father makayla Davis used to tell me every week when she was home that I was the best dad ever I was a single dad and I love my daughter very much school system to abuse my daughter it’s still hurts but I must move on

    • jacqueline says:

      Kevin, it’s hard on you I know, to not have your family in your life. Mental Health is rampant in the world now. An indication that mankind’s condition is getting worse with the passing of each century.

      Jesus will soon return Kevin so please pray and hold on.

      No matter what religion a person is, Jehovah witness, Muslim, Baptist, Tao etc, we all will stand as individuals before the judgment seat of Jehovah and Jesus.

      For the first 100 yrs after Christ there were only HOUSE CHURCHES or congregations. These denominations with all of their little made up rules have no bearing on our salvation or value with Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

      There are more rules in the Witnesses religion than the Law Code. They change their rules so much I have no idea what they believe anymore. I meet in a small little Congregation consisting mostly of Jewish friends and others. Very small meeting.

      Pray for help during the winter months because they play havoc with our mental health. I will pray for you Kevin. Take Care my friend

  7. my daughter did not pledge of allegiance to the flag The students began picking on my daughter my daughter came home crying what tears on her shirt and the next day she claimed the school teacher hit her and told her to stare at the flag. I suffered a mental breakdown over this because of my mental breakdown my daughter was taken awayto be adopted into another family this policy of not pledge of allegiance to the flag resulted in me losing my daughter that the Jehovah’s witnesses have. I pray to Jehovah that he will reunite me with my daughter I lost a lot of years because of my daughter not saluting the flag and pledge of allegiance my mental breakdown cost me a lot of memories with my daughter that I don’t get to have I didn’t get to take my daughter to the beach as a child 😢😭💔 I’m broken hearted person 💔 I’m going to be baptized as a Christian very soon. Jesus Christ was a prophet and the living son of God who died in 3 days later was rose from the dead. Jacqueline we are in the last days Jesus Christ loves you it is God’s intentions the save everybody from total destruction do you like a fire is the second death and there’s no escape from the second death we will be made perfect and then if we sin we will be put to death this world is a trial the world is coming Satan will never be able to touch God’s King again Jesus was made perfect and he tasted death to make us perfect we will soon have a choice whether to sin or not sin in a perfect 💯 body that knows no sin I hope I answer about the lake of fire symbolically destruction.

  8. Kevin Davis says:

    the judgement message is love. God is love in all his actions is love we were to follow that character of God. the Nations maybe going to war all over the Earth and during that war they will cry out for peace and security great tribulation the judgments of God welcome to all mankind. many will lead the road to everlasting life mini will face God’s judgments because they did not love friends the road ever last in life is love to live forever means you must have actions of love and that love can only be found in God.

  9. Kevin Davis says:

    good morning how is everybody doing hope everyone is doing well keep the faith of Jesus Christ

  10. Alan Finch says:

    One of the great tragedies is the widespread misunderstanding about the “Lake of Fire” spoken of in the Book of Revelation.

    My name is Alan Finch. I submitted myself to the Lordship of JESUS CHRIST in April of 1976. I was a Christian for approximately 38 years before I began to uncover the truth in the Scriptures that there will be no eternal torment in a Lake of Fire.

    In May of 2014, the Lord put a heavy burden in my Spirit to write an article on this subject. Later on, the Lord then spoke to my Spirit to expound Biblically on the question “If there is no eternal torment in a Lake of Fire, then what is our time here on Earth really all about?” I Biblically expound extensively on this question in a 31 page document that I have put together.

    I spent several years in putting together this article, because I wanted to leave no stone unturned. After all, what can be more important than our eternal destiny? My article is 31 pages in length and is certainly too lengthy to post in the comment section.

    The Biblical truth about the “GOOD NEWS” of the Gospel of Christ is not being taught in the Institutional Church today. In fact, the Church today has turned the “GOOD NEWS” into “BAD NEWS.” JESUS came to bring us “GOOD NEWS.”

    If anyone would like a copy, email me (candy33alan@aol.com) and I will email you a copy.

    • traveler says:

      Hi Finch, maybe looking at the term resurrection as a process, rather than a return to life.resurrection also refers to a process where death is the end result connected to your lake of fire.

    • jacqueline says:

      Alan, hello and welcome to the site. I am so glad you will email it to anyone wanting it. Thoughts on the Lake of fire are needed. I post mostly what others see about subjects and am wondering if I can get a link from you to put directly to your site and they can click and go out.
      My reasoning is this. Quite a few will email you but quite a few won’t, but they will hit a link because it doesn’t reveal anything about them such as the email address.
      If you don’t have it posted on a website then I understand.I am going to bring your comment back up to the top so it will show for the weekend when we get most of our traffic.
      Let me know if you get requests, please.
      I do hope you have a link. Take Care

      Could this be the link? https://candy33alan.medium.com/

  11. Lee Anthony says:

    The video is interesting, what about 2 nd death? This was not addressed..

  12. Lee Anthony says:

    I will watch the video, I will state my thought on death is no different only that my thought on Gods laws and ways he deals with things are. According to law life isfor a life, etc… We are saved from this basically thru Christ, Satan is not. He has done more to Gods earth and his creation on earth than any other, and also he has wronged and broke laws in heaven as well. Is 1000 years enoughof a punishment? Is death enough according to Gods law? Not that I see, however the reflection of things on earth that are in heaven means there are laws in heaven also and I would guess that spirit beings are delt with as well only differently than us as we are earthly beings and the Lakeof fire is death for us but it was created for spirit beings not us so what is it it to them?I dont think satan and his angels are treated the same as they are not the same as us. He has been alive for thousands of years and I doubt he dies of old age anytime soon… God said man has come to be like us knowing good and EVIL, and Since he is creater of ALL things does this mean he created good and evil just happened? Thats another subject but fitting for the topic of spirit beings and treatment as they had knowledge of things before the tree as they were apparently created differently. The hebrew bible says good and evil not Calamity in Isaiah 45 in the account speaking of God causes both good and calamity. Calamity was inserted as a result of “christian” doctrine. Evil is the proper word, Jewish translations keep the original, most english do not. What does it mean? Things are more than they seem and spirit beings are obviously dealt with differently since they fell in a different way, no sin from a tree in the garden, they already had the knowledge and misused it…

    • jacqueline says:

      Lee, I follow you. This is what we need to do feel free to say how we see it or don’t see it. I am going to keep on looking for other thoughts on the lake of Fire. I know God doesn’t tell us everything just as Jesus didn’t tell his disciples that they would have to wait for a couple of thousand years before He came again. He said “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.” (John 16:12)
      We probably don’t need to know exactly what happens in this lake of fire. LOL, The Greek actually says not forever and ever but from ages to ages one man said.
      So this indicates the ages to come is a long, long time and we can’t understand everything at once. Like a baby or child, we don’t introduce everything all at once.

      I am just glad to be able to look at the exact words of Jesus in Revelation, that victorious ones will not be hurt at all by second death.

      Revelation 2:11 New International Version (NIV)
      11 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death.

    • traveler says:

      Hi Lee, sounds like you can put some thought into it when you wish. The question did God create everything good and bad? might be looked at more accurately in the consideration, how can a question exist?, or in other words be asked, if God controls everything/ created every thing?
      Isaiah 43:10
      “YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of
      Yahweh, “even my servant whom I have chosen, in order that YOU may know and have faith in me, and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Yahweh, and besides me there is no savior.”

      Now in this scripture we learn how a question can exist. God applies conditions to himself, before and after, formed. God could not be aware of his beginning when all that is , he created, excluding himself of course. The Bible tells us Yahweh’s “way” of thinking and creating leads to life and any other leads to death/bad. Knowing good and bad means experiencing both, not just understanding both. God meant for us to know/experience only good. The Bible says we must pursue that which God pursues. God purses ,that is interesting right. So there are sides to pursuit. The great question is “Is there another “way” to pursue that will lead to life? Satan thinks so, Eve considered it, and Adam was just weak. That’s why we must take a stand, hopefully fully under-standing God.

  13. jacqueline says:

    Brothers here is the article so we can send people directly to this discussion.
    Br. Dave made a great suggestion Thursday to go verse by verse in Revelation.
    It is a book where you can’t add or take away like the Torah so the Holy Spirit can lead us.

    I am so glad you brought this up because I have been talking privately with Henry for nearly 10 years about the Greek and Hebrews words.

    Jesus said thru the angel to John:
    Rev. 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.’
    Hurt???? What is happening here?

    If you are dead what is there to be subjected to?

    When I toured one of the entertainers told me:

    Jackie all my friends will be in Hell and we will figure out a way to deal with the fire!
    He said Jackie you will be alive in your little paradise and I will be alive also,
    alive is alive.

    That was over20 years ago and I have only in the last 9 years been able to believe something different about 2nd death.

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